[Lula-biz] biz - hi, ok - is this list alive?

SML parallax at lafn.org
Mon Jul 19 21:10:03 EDT 2004


This is sooooo OT, but as long as it's started ... Link and excerpt
below to article which confirms an ISP currently has the right to read
any email stored on their servers. Case concerns a bookseller/ISP who
syphoned off a copy of any email communication to one of their customers
from competitor Amazon to data mine as their leisure.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/05/close_email_wiretap_loophole/

******* excerpt

Last week a Federal District Court in Boston decided that when someone
reads your private email without your permission and before you receive
it, it doesn't violate federal wiretap law. The ruling perfectly
illustrates how we can frustrate the entire purpose of a statute simply
by reading it too carefully.

The case began when an online bookstore named Internloc decided to also
become an online ISP... and a KGB. First it provided its clients with
email and Internet access, then it became interested in its customers'
communications with competitor Amazon.com, presumable to find out which
books its customers were buying from Amazon, and not from them.
Internloc modified its inbound mail server to make special copies of any
incoming Amazon email for the company to read, without the customers'
knowledge or consent.





> Which is why companies like MS want to store all data on their
> servers, wouldn't it be great to have your hands on every single piece
> of data from every competitor?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Peter Benjamin wrote:
> 
> > At 05:04 PM 7/19/2004, Matti s wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >> Boo, hiss, Gmail... read the privacy policy... the only
> > >> protection you get is for what you type, and nothing
> > >> of what I type or others is protected.  Tricky policy
> > >> and I do not trust those who hide behind tricky wording.
> > >
> > >ummm... I don't think that's possible to legally pull
> > >off copyright ownership of what others send to my
> > >email account. That just seems impossible.
> > 
> > Why do you bring up copyright?  Privacy is the issue here.
> > And preventing a third party supplier of services from
> > taking advantage of what people communicate to you
> > via that service.  Lack of privacy.  Such an environment
> > is impossible to conduct business in.
> > 
> > >Question came up during the LAMP meeting this last
> > >sat about contracts for consulting and liability limits
> > >and authorization of using the clients network resources
> > >to do work.
> > >
> > >Any recommendations for forms?
> > 
> > Wrong topic to be posting that under.  :^)
> > Hmm, wrong list to if LAMP SIG has the thread.  :*) 
> > 
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