[Lula-chat] Fwd: [election] Fwd: BREAKING: Train Wreck In Maryland Primary (Diebold touchscreens)

[Chuck Kerschner]

Thanks Chris & Pete; I had heard of Mr. Schneier's system but
didn't know it was his idea, wouldn't have been able to connect
the system with the name.

I notice he also calls for open source software for use in the
voting machines.

Check out <http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm>
(from my sig file, below) from January 2003 but an excellent
exposition of the problem.

Peter Benjamin wrote:
> At 03:41 PM 9/12/2006, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> Chuck Kerschner wrote:
>>> Ready to trust the new technology election system?
> 
> I'm totally shocked.  What a blow.  Well deserved.
> And this before any electronic glitches are found,
> or the votes counted and examined for systemic
> irregularities like in 2004...
> 
> Give me paper ballot, every time!!!  Tried and true.
> 
> 3 disaster years with Evoting machines ... time to get someone
> doing the machines that knows how it is done.
> 
> Watch while someone makes the argument that the lack of paper
> for these Evoting machines means no paper trail is better...
> 
> Hogwash, of course.
> 
>> I'm also curious as to why nobody has come up with a voting system that 
>> works along the lines of Bruce Schneier's design.
> 
> URL? http://www.schneier.com/essay-039.html has the below:
> 
> My suggestion, echoed by many computer-security experts, is a computer 
voting machine that prints out an ATM-style paper ballot. The voter checks
the paper ballot for accuracy and then drops it into a sealed ballot box.
The paper ballots are the "official" votes and can be used for recounts,
while the computer provides a quick initial tally. E-voting machines must
have the ability to verify some of the translation steps; voters can then
verify that the machine correctly recorded their votes, and election
officials can, if there is a recount, verify the votes were correctly
tabulated. We can't eliminate translation steps, but we can add redundancy.
> 
> 
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/11/the_problem_wit.html
> 
> 
> More in the search engine, but the blog entries are too much
> for me to wade through looking for design
> 
> http://www.schneier.com/cgi-bin/search/search.pl?Realm=whole+site&Terms=voting+machine
> 


Footnotes - my soapbox:
SUPPORT IRV - Instant Runoff Voting:
	<http://www.fairvote.org/irv/>
	<http://www.calltheroll.com/web_app/ctrs_home.aspx>
TRASH Touchscreen voting - unless you really trust Windows
and vote-machine manufacturers.
	<http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm>
	<http://www.blackboxvoting.org/>
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS - BRING THEM HOME! ALIVE! RESTORE THEIR BENEFITS!
GIVE "W" Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Richard Perle,
Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice and David Addington a pack, a rifle,
and some sun-tan lotion and SEND THEM to Iraq to replace the troops.
URGE the British Parliament to do the same with their Prime Minister.
Info:	<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/>
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