[Lula] Microsoft writes Oklahoma anti-spyware bill... that lets them use spyware!

[Matthew Easton]

We agree that the manufacturer/vendor shouldn't invade the software  
purchaser's computer.

But arguing against the creator's right to profit from his work  
[ even if they are a convicted monopolist ] is less effective than  
arguing that the manufacturer's effort to control access violates the  
buyer.

Matt.

On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Alan Ptak wrote:

> Privacy issues aside, I absolutely do care what any software  
> manufacturer or vendor deletes from my systems. They write the  
> buggy software in the first place .. so much for perfect knowledge.
>
>
> Matthew Easton wrote:
>> I absolutely don't care if cracked software could get deleted from  
>> my  computer (assuming perfect knowledge on the manufacturer's  
>> part --  heh.).   Why should I hold the software manufacturer to a  
>> higher  standard than I hold myself...
>> It's the other stuff I worry about.  If someone's looking at my   
>> software, might they also be looking at my documents?  After 9/11  
>> we  saw stories of airline passengers being pulled off of planes  
>> for  reading novels with terrorist themes.  And 'child suspended  
>> for  taking aspirin at school/hugging classmate/writing murder  
>> fantasy'  stories are fairly common.   Would Nabokov be in danger  
>> of being  arrested while he wrote "Lolita"?  Or William S.  
>> Burroughs writing  "Naked Lunch"?  Or some poor sap venting in a  
>> private journal?
>> Thought crimes...
>> On Apr 13, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Brent Tubbs wrote:
>>> On the other hand, what are the odds that Microsoft, or any  
>>> other  software vendor, is going to produce a special "Oklahoma- 
>>> only"  edition of their software that does all this snooping and  
>>> deleting,  and sell everyone else the non-snooping version?   
>>> Pretty slim, I'd  say.
>>>
>>> Standing alone, I don't think this law is much of a threat.  But  
>>> if  it persuades other states to follow suit, and convinces  
>>> people that  it's generally okay for software companies to build  
>>> in backdoors,  then there will really be a problem.
>>>
>>> Charles Wyble wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Kegel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Right, it has nothing to do with vista.  However, it does let   
>>>>> software
>>>>> vendors wipe things from your computer remotely, which is  
>>>>> pretty  scary.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/12/06, Charles Wyble <charles at thewybles.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it has anything to do with vista. The Register  
>>>>>> is  known
>>>>>> for sensationalist journalism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Kegel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check this out:
>>>>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30877
>>>>>>> "The problem is that if you agree, you give the company you  
>>>>>>> bought
>>>>>>> upgradable software the freedom to come onto your computer for
>>>>>>> "detection or prevention of the unauthorized use of or   
>>>>>>> fraudulent or
>>>>>>> other illegal activities in connection with a network,  
>>>>>>> service, or
>>>>>>> computer software, including scanning for and removing computer
>>>>>>> software prescribed under this act."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words if you install Vista, Microsoft can come in,  
>>>>>>> snoop
>>>>>>> around your computer see if you are doing anything illegal  
>>>>>>> and  delete
>>>>>>> it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See also
>>>>>>> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/04/11/1630211.shtml
>>>>>>> - Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
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