It just don't get no dumber than this... (Peter don't snort soda out of your nose while reading): 1. install ubuntu 2. install apache 3. forget to install php 4. forget that site uses php 5. set up virtual host 6. crash server while trying to access site 7. sit around looking puzzled... D'oh! -- Steve Glasser Flying Pig Computer Svc. sgla9347 at gmail.com