From kcohen at datatriage.com  Tue Jun 21 02:31:20 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (kcohen at datatriage.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:31:20 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
Message-ID: <20050621063120.2644.qmail@gem-wbe05.mesa1.secureserver.net>

OK, it does work.  I was trying to use a different machine that did not
have the private key.

Thank you for the access.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
> From: Christopher Smith <x at xman.org>
> Date: Mon, June 20, 2005 10:06 pm
> To: kcohen at datatriage.com
> Cc: planning at lula.org
> 
> kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:
> 
> >I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
> >not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
> >computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
> >  
> >
> No, the key will work from any machine that has the private key setup. 
> Can you describe how your login fails?
> 
> --Chris
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From kcohen at datatriage.com  Mon Jun 20 23:48:58 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (kcohen at datatriage.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:48:58 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
Message-ID: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>

I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
computer or ip-address that it was generated from?

I'm hoping that it will be easier to update the web-site.

-Kevin

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From brianwredfern at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 22 02:17:46 2005
From: brianwredfern at yahoo.com (Brian Redfern)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Planning] Re: [Lula] Re:Tonight's meeting.
In-Reply-To: <op.ssrcqiwk64vedj@kirby1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20050622061746.10040.qmail@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was supposed to demo linux audio, but I wound up
getting stuck at work, unfortunately half our office
is in Japan, so I wind up being forced to randomly
work from 9am-10pm.

--- thom irwin <thomas.irwin at comcast.net> wrote:

> Sorry I missed the meeting. I will definitely be
> there next time. I am  
> looking
> fwd to a system building event to get something of
> my own whipped into  
> shape.
> 
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:40:10 -0700, Kevin Cohen
> <kcohen at datatriage.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> > It seems that tonights talk is going to be
> postponed till another month.  
> > I'll still show up in case we can get some
> straglers, and maybe talk  
> > some linux jargon.
> >
> 
> >>> -Kevin
> >>>
> -- 
> Thom Irwin - Los Angeles <thomas.irwin at comcast.net>
> 
> Escuadrilla Del El Chupacabra:
> 
> Ursa Da Grizz - '98 EV / EZS RX5 Sidecar
> Abreviator     - '04 Breva w/MGC custom aluminum
> bodywork
> Traveler        - '03 California / Aluminum Spl
> Sport - highway cruiser
> Li'l Sparky     - JZR(Morgan kit car replica 3
> wheeler) / '81 G5 V1000
> Danube Weasel       - '04 Breva  / Duna sidecar
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From brianwredfern at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 22 02:17:46 2005
From: brianwredfern at yahoo.com (Brian Redfern)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Planning] Re: [Lula] Re:Tonight's meeting.
In-Reply-To: <op.ssrcqiwk64vedj@kirby1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20050622061746.10040.qmail@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was supposed to demo linux audio, but I wound up
getting stuck at work, unfortunately half our office
is in Japan, so I wind up being forced to randomly
work from 9am-10pm.

--- thom irwin <thomas.irwin at comcast.net> wrote:

> Sorry I missed the meeting. I will definitely be
> there next time. I am  
> looking
> fwd to a system building event to get something of
> my own whipped into  
> shape.
> 
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:40:10 -0700, Kevin Cohen
> <kcohen at datatriage.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> > It seems that tonights talk is going to be
> postponed till another month.  
> > I'll still show up in case we can get some
> straglers, and maybe talk  
> > some linux jargon.
> >
> 
> >>> -Kevin
> >>>
> -- 
> Thom Irwin - Los Angeles <thomas.irwin at comcast.net>
> 
> Escuadrilla Del El Chupacabra:
> 
> Ursa Da Grizz - '98 EV / EZS RX5 Sidecar
> Abreviator     - '04 Breva w/MGC custom aluminum
> bodywork
> Traveler        - '03 California / Aluminum Spl
> Sport - highway cruiser
> Li'l Sparky     - JZR(Morgan kit car replica 3
> wheeler) / '81 G5 V1000
> Danube Weasel       - '04 Breva  / Duna sidecar
> 



		
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From x at xman.org  Wed Jun  8 17:49:16 2005
From: x at xman.org (Christopher Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:49:16 -0700
Subject: [Planning] Speaking of the LULA server...
Message-ID: <42A767DC.3010204@xman.org>

To answer Kevin's question, several folks have access to the server. 
I've tended to let Peter and Ron handle web site updates. I'm happy to 
create accounts for people. Just send me an SSH public key and I'll 
setup your accounts. This avoids the "insecurely e-mail them" part of 
the problem.

On a larger note though, we *really* need to do something about LULA's 
server. I think it's been about 2 years now that that sucker has been 
"about" to be replaced.

This is a serious problem because in it's present form it is an 
eminently hackable device with a seriously hacked up mail setup. It 
appears that it is being used by spammers for all kinds of stuff (I am 
getting about 60+ messages a day that represent bounced spam that was 
routed through the lula server).

I know we've had a machine due to take over for some time, but that 
seems to have been stalled for reasons that aren't clear to me. I can't 
personally take the time to see this through, but I'd really appreciate 
it if someone, or a group of someone's would. There does appear to be a 
machine at www2.lula.org, but I'm not sure if that is ready to be 
converted over to being lula's server.

Who wants to take the lead on this?

--Chris
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From x at xman.org  Tue Jun 21 01:06:12 2005
From: x at xman.org (Christopher Smith)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:06:12 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
In-Reply-To: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
References: 
	 <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <42B7A044.6000700@xman.org>

kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:

>I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
>not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
>computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
>  
>
No, the key will work from any machine that has the private key setup. 
Can you describe how your login fails?

--Chris
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From kcohen at datatriage.com  Mon Jun 20 23:48:58 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (kcohen at datatriage.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:48:58 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
Message-ID: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>

I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
computer or ip-address that it was generated from?

I'm hoping that it will be easier to update the web-site.

-Kevin

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From kcohen at datatriage.com  Tue Jun 21 02:31:20 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (kcohen at datatriage.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:31:20 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
Message-ID: <20050621063120.2644.qmail@gem-wbe05.mesa1.secureserver.net>

OK, it does work.  I was trying to use a different machine that did not
have the private key.

Thank you for the access.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
> From: Christopher Smith <x at xman.org>
> Date: Mon, June 20, 2005 10:06 pm
> To: kcohen at datatriage.com
> Cc: planning at lula.org
> 
> kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:
> 
> >I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
> >not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
> >computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
> >  
> >
> No, the key will work from any machine that has the private key setup. 
> Can you describe how your login fails?
> 
> --Chris
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From kcohen at datatriage.com  Tue Jun 21 21:40:10 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (Kevin Cohen)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:40:10 -0700
Subject: [Planning] Re:Tonight's meeting.
References: <20050622010228.22760.qmail@web32202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <017301c576cb$5464ad90$0283a8c0@dell01>

It seems that tonights talk is going to be postponed till another month. 
I'll still show up in case we can get some straglers, and maybe talk some 
linux jargon.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Redfern" <brianwredfern at yahoo.com>
To: <kcohen at datatriage.com>; <planning at lula.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Planning] problems logging into lula server


> Hey guys, my work won't let me leave tonight, so I
> won't be able to do my talk, the boss is making
> me stay here till 10pm tonight, just out of the blue,
> so they said I have to cancel my talk.
>
> --- kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:
>
>> I was supposedly given access to the lula server,
>> however my login does
>> not work.  Is that because the public key will only
>> work with the
>> computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
>>
>> I'm hoping that it will be easier to update the
>> web-site.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.lula.org/mailman/listinfo/planning
>>
>
>
>
>
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From kcohen at datatriage.com  Wed Jun  8 17:32:50 2005
From: kcohen at datatriage.com (Kevin Cohen)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:32:50 -0700
Subject: [Planning] Access to web-site
Message-ID: <00fd01c56c71$9fa593a0$0283a8c0@dell01>

Who is managing the LULA server?  is it Chris or Ron?

We need to get access to update the web-site.

I would like three accounts.  I believe I had one; however haven't used it 
in years.

bredfern-  Brian Redfern
smichelle - Sharon Michelle
kcohen - kcohen

We all need access to update the web-site.  Our email addresses are as 
follows.  If you can create a password, and insecurely email them to the 
respective individuals.

smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com
brianwredfern at yahoo.com
kcohen at datatriage.com

Thank you,

-Kevin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Redfern" <brianwredfern at yahoo.com>
To: "Kevin Cohen" <kcohen at datatriage.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Planning] web page update


>I need access, so let me know if there's an ftp
> account to get in to edit the page.
>
> --- Kevin Cohen <kcohen at datatriage.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> Your presentation is on the 14th.  I'm excited to
>> listen.  I was wondering
>> if you can work with Sharon in terms of creating an
>> easy to edit home page
>> for LULA.  Also, if you can put your information on
>> the LULA web-site so we
>> can advertise the talk.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "SMichelle" <smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com>
>> To: <kcohen at datatriage.com>
>> Cc: <brianwredfern at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Planning] web page update
>>
>>
>> > Sorry. CMS == Content Management System. The CMS
>> phpWebSite, as are most
>> > of the CMSes out there, is run with a combo of PHP
>> and MySQL.
>> >
>> > Each CMS generally have their own library of
>> available templates or
>> > looks which are available to customize. Since the
>> LULA site is so
>> > simple, phpWebSite has a few available templates
>> which could be quickly
>> > be adjusted to LULA.
>> >
>> > I'm only mentioning phpWebSite as I've used at the
>> linuchixla.org site
>> > and it is really helping in making the site more
>> maintainable. And, at
>> > least from my use, is very simple to pickup the
>> basics.
>> >
>> > /Sharon
>> >
>> >
>> >> Brian,
>> >>
>> >> I'm not quite sure what CMS is; however it sounds
>> like it is very
>> >> compatable with PHP.  Is it possible to make a
>> template in CMS?  If
>> >> so, I think Sharon is willing to update it for
>> the next few months,
>> >> and it will make it easier for the next
>> maintainer.
>> >>
>> >> -Kevin
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [Planning] web page update
>> >> From: SMichelle
>> <smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com>
>> >> Date: Wed, April 06, 2005 2:30 pm
>> >> To: kcohen at datatriage.com
>> >>
>> >> Hey Kevin:
>> >>
>> >> Is there any chance that LULA could be switched
>> to a CMS? It is beyond
>> >> tedious to edit html pages in the messy, brute
>> force way the LULA now
>> >> handles the web page announcements.
>> >>
>> >> phpWebSite is an easy CMS. There are not many
>> modules, but LULA
>> >> doesn't need many, and administering them is
>> pretty straight forward.
>> >> The greatest benefit is that calendar events can
>> also be used as
>> >> meeting announcement, and the archiving is done
>> automatically. You can
>> >> also create calendar events for meetings in the
>> future.
>> >>
>> >> If installing phpWebSite, or other CMS, then I
>> would be willing to
>> >> make some custom adjustments to the default
>> template and populate the
>> >> calendar for the next few months.
>> Linuxchixla.org switched about a
>> >> month ago ... and it is making keeping the page
>> updated *much* easier.
>> >>
>> >> phpWebSite
>> >> http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/
>> >>
>> >> To test the phpWebSite admin functions
>> >>
>>
> http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=141
>> >>
>> >> /Sharon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Do we have someone who can update the web-site
>> for the next couple
>> >> > of months?  We have a few presentations that
>> are going to happen in
>> >> > the near future, and we are hoping to get them
>> on the web-site.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any volunteers?
>> >> >
>> >> > -Kevin
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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From brianwredfern at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 21 21:02:28 2005
From: brianwredfern at yahoo.com (Brian Redfern)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
In-Reply-To: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <20050622010228.22760.qmail@web32202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey guys, my work won't let me leave tonight, so I
won't be able to do my talk, the bastards are making
me stay here till 10pm tonight, just out of the blue,
so they said I have to cancel my talk.

--- kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:

> I was supposedly given access to the lula server,
> however my login does
> not work.  Is that because the public key will only
> work with the
> computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
> 
> I'm hoping that it will be easier to update the
> web-site.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Planning mailing list
> Planning at lula.org
> http://www.lula.org/mailman/listinfo/planning
> 



		
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From x at xman.org  Tue Jun 21 01:06:12 2005
From: x at xman.org (Christopher Smith)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:06:12 -0700
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
In-Reply-To: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
References: 
	 <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <42B7A044.6000700@xman.org>

kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:

>I was supposedly given access to the lula server, however my login does
>not work.  Is that because the public key will only work with the
>computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
>  
>
No, the key will work from any machine that has the private key setup. 
Can you describe how your login fails?

--Chris
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From brianwredfern at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 21 21:02:28 2005
From: brianwredfern at yahoo.com (Brian Redfern)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Planning] problems logging into lula server
In-Reply-To: <20050621034859.4701.qmail@webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <20050622010228.22760.qmail@web32202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey guys, my work won't let me leave tonight, so I
won't be able to do my talk, the bastards are making
me stay here till 10pm tonight, just out of the blue,
so they said I have to cancel my talk.

--- kcohen at datatriage.com wrote:

> I was supposedly given access to the lula server,
> however my login does
> not work.  Is that because the public key will only
> work with the
> computer or ip-address that it was generated from?
> 
> I'm hoping that it will be easier to update the
> web-site.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Planning at lula.org
> http://www.lula.org/mailman/listinfo/planning
> 



		
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From x at xman.org  Wed Jun  8 17:49:16 2005
From: x at xman.org (Christopher Smith)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:49:16 -0700
Subject: [Planning] Speaking of the LULA server...
Message-ID: <42A767DC.3010204@xman.org>

To answer Kevin's question, several folks have access to the server. 
I've tended to let Peter and Ron handle web site updates. I'm happy to 
create accounts for people. Just send me an SSH public key and I'll 
setup your accounts. This avoids the "insecurely e-mail them" part of 
the problem.

On a larger note though, we *really* need to do something about LULA's 
server. I think it's been about 2 years now that that sucker has been 
"about" to be replaced.

This is a serious problem because in it's present form it is an 
eminently hackable device with a seriously hacked up mail setup. It 
appears that it is being used by spammers for all kinds of stuff (I am 
getting about 60+ messages a day that represent bounced spam that was 
routed through the lula server).

I know we've had a machine due to take over for some time, but that 
seems to have been stalled for reasons that aren't clear to me. I can't 
personally take the time to see this through, but I'd really appreciate 
it if someone, or a group of someone's would. There does appear to be a 
machine at www2.lula.org, but I'm not sure if that is ready to be 
converted over to being lula's server.

Who wants to take the lead on this?

--Chris
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